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Welcome to Comfort Zone, a podcast all about pushing the host, well, outside of their comfort zone. This episode is sponsored by ListenLater.net. I'm Christopher Lawley, and each week I am joined by Matt Birchler. Matt, how are you doing? I'm feeling amazing. We're also joined by Niléane. Niléane, how are you doing? I'm doing all right, which is good enough. Good enough. You know, it's hot here. So that's kind of how I feel right now.

Like it's going to be over 100 degrees here today. And I'm just like, we kind of figured out it was like 37 degrees Celsius or 35 degrees Celsius. It's hot. It's really hot here. So we're going to get this show going so I can turn the AC back on quickly. So Matt, you're first up in the show, Doc. What do you have for us this week? Yeah, so today I have something fun. No productivity, the opposite of it, actually. I have been using the DC Universe Infinite app on my iPad, which is DC's subscription service for reading comic books.

So I'm a super casual comic fan. I like comics. Every time I read them, I'm like so glad I do it and I really enjoy it. And if you can, those watching the video can see behind me, I've got a good number of kind of books back there. Some of the big comics. I really like them, but I haven't really, I'm very much a casual fan who doesn't really know all of the great books out there who doesn't really obsess over it. I don't participate in any of like the online communities or anything, but I have been jumping into this and it's been pretty cool.

So I was curious, are you guys into comics at all? Did you read them as a kid? Do you read them now? Kind of where are you guys at with these? So regarding comics, I have a problem, which is I can't concentrate on what I'm reading. It might have something to do with my ADHD or something like that. I have no idea. But the fact that I have to look at pictures and understand what is written on them is impossible to me.

So I've never gone too into it, really. But I really wish I had, because some of them are really pretty. Yeah, I love comics. I read a lot of Spider-Man and X-Men when I was a kid, mostly because I watched the 90s Spider-Man and 90s X-Men cartoons and then found the comic books and started reading all those and stuff like that. And I didn't read in any particular order. It was just like we had this baseball card trading card shop, comic book shop, whatever you want to call it.

In this area that I lived in, we would just go in there and they would have like it was always like the bad issues and stuff like that that you could buy for like 99 cents and stuff like that. So I'd load up on Spider-Man and X-Men and stuff like that. But I have over the last few months ish, probably almost a year. I don't know. Something like that. I've been subscribed to Marvel Unlimited, and I have been going back and I've been reading old X-Men comics. I'm just, like, kind of working my way through, like, the original run of X-Men, Amazing Spider-Man.

I'm also reading the new line of, like, canon Star Wars comics. So the stuff that takes place in between Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. And then now they're currently doing, and I just haven't got to them yet, stuff that takes place between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. uh plus there's some darth vader comics that are really really good uh if you want to see like darth vader at like his ultimate bad guy self yeah these are the comics for it um but yeah big

comic reader i feel like every time i bring up a media thing you have like a darth vader thing that you really dig in like we talked about that with the meta quest 3 you're like the one game the one think that was really rad that i want to play a darth vader game i mean it for those that are watching the video feed i have a darth vader head right over here right there so you know yeah i have a helmet it's the lego helmet but i actually have a replica vader helmet it's in the closet it's really big i don't have a place to put it but yeah oh dang okay um all right so different so totally different places uh for you guys um interestingly one of the things i really like

about reading comics is actually how bite-sized the individual issues are so you can read like a whole book right it's like hundreds of pages but like the typical issues of just your day-to-day comics are like 20 pages or so with and again it's not like dense like reading it's uh there's there's pictures there's fun art um so i actually find them really easy to kind of just like uh read for 10 or 15 minutes and then be done with it which really helps me um but yeah i've i've been jumping

into the app and uh chris like you said it's very similar to marvel unlimited uh it's basically yeah it's a subscription you can read a whole bunch of things and the thing that i didn't really know about the world of comic books uh before kind of jumping into this app and reading it and like seeing what's available and kind of understanding the rules of like what's available when is it available is that physical media in comics is still like a really big thing like so the so the way it works

for availability is a new book will come out a new issue of whatever series will come out and then uh what is it 30 days or sorry six months later then it's available in dc universe infinite so you have to wait six months from the release for it to be available you can pay for an ultra subscription which is more expensive and then it's available 30 days after but there is absolutely no way to read these things like day and date digitally you have to go you have to not only read the physical version

but you actually have to go to like a comic store you can't buy these online easily that i've been able to find there's no like easy way to say like i want to subscribe to uh whatever the current Batman series is or whatever and you have to actually go somewhere to buy it which I was really actually surprised about I kind of thought I'd be able to just at the very least subscribe to something and have it just mailed to me every week every month or whatever the cadence is they're released but it's really like compared to movies and like music which is all digital now like it

was really interesting to find this medium that's very centered on not only the physical version of but also like having you go to a store that's specifically about this medium to go get it. I just hadn't experienced that in so long. And like, I'm kind of intimidated by going to a comic store. So I haven't done it yet, but I might end up doing that because apparently if you want to keep up with things in real time, that's that's the only way to do it, at least in the DC world.

Yeah, and Marvel and Marvel Unlimited is very similar. I think it's six months as well. Maybe it may be a little shorter. I don't remember, but I'm so far behind on comic book reading and stuff like that. Like that delay doesn't actually bother me because I just I don't I just don't have a ton of time to read comics. So I pick it up here and there and I'll read like two or three when I sit down to read a comic or something like that. Plus, I love reading comics on the new iPad. The OLED display, how light it is, the 13-inch iPad can show you the full page at the right resolution and all that stuff.

So I'm right there with you. I used to go to a comic book store and pick up comics, but especially now that I moved, we don't have comic book stores around here. So I don't have a place to go. I would have to drive 45 minutes into town to get—so it's a whole thing. So I really like these services, even though there is a delay. So an interesting thing about the app, and this might be different from the Marvel app, because I haven't used Marvel Unlimited. I used it, I think, for like a month or two back when, like, they were doing the new 52 or that thing in like 2016 where they restarted everything.

In the DC app, they really make they really work on the upsell. So I have the basic subscription since I've just been trying it out. So it's like eight dollars a month, I think. But in the app, they show you all of the things you could be getting with Ultra at all times, which is kind of annoying because you like tap on it and it's like it'll be here in five months. And so I'm I'm guessing they have quite a few upsells on that. But yeah, that's kind of annoying. I did in my kind of searching around because I was like, this is a little again, the thing that really surprised me was there was no way for me to subscribe and get these mailed to me, the physical ones.

And I found Marvel does have an option. They have something called Marvel subscriptions, but it looks real sketchy and doesn't look legit. And like Googling around for it does not create confidence in me. So this was kind of upsetting. It looks like they're working through a third party who hasn't updated their website in the last like 20 years to look any different or anything. There's stories online of like people subscribing and then like never getting it or they subscribe to like a new series that's supposed to come out every month and they just kind of get them all at

the end and like there's no communication so i don't know if it's good maybe people have great experiences with it but there is marvel subscriptions we'll put links in the show notes for these but that was the only thing i could find for like just subscribing to these big series and uh yeah just just kind of a surprise to me um i guess the last thing i would want to mention because the app is not that crazy like like Chris you said with the Marvel app you can see everything in full screen it looks great it looks incredible on the iPad the new iOLED iPads but some of the things I've

been reading in the app again not that deep into all the lore and everything so I'm reading kind of the normal ones some that I'm really liking right now are all-star Superman Batman Dark Age which is a Batman with a cool art style that I haven't seen in Batman before and then Birds of Prey these are all really really good i'm really enjoying these and then i'll put some other recommendations for things i've read uh in the kind of the show notes if you want to see some other just if you're getting into comics these are all things that are available um the one comic that i wanted to shout out and maybe i just did this entire segment to recommend this one comic uh or graphic novel is called

blankets uh it's from like 10 years ago maybe more at this point it's about this it's basically someone writing a memoir about their teenage years where they went to like a religious summer camp sort of thing and fell in love and like a whole it's really a very honest and beautiful story about adolescence and it just wrecked me so blankets it's an incredible story incredible book not a DC thing or anything but if you see it and it won a whole bunch of like awards the came out so highly highly recommended if you aren't into comics and don't want superheroes

it's incredible so i would highly recommend uh checking out blankets but yeah that's kind of all i had to say about uh the dc universe infinite thing i think i'm going to keep it going um but if you guys have any other questions i'm happy to answer them uh otherwise i'm happy to hand off to you chris because you have something very very cool to look at this week yes i do but i do have question for you so one thing that i love about the marvel unlimited app is if you have a smaller ipad there is an option to change the view from like a full page view to a panel view so it just

shows like the individual panel and for the most part it works really well especially like if you're reading on something like an ipad mini uh it get reading on an ipad mini is fine if you're using this panel view but like when you get like a full page like a comic that like instead of having a bunch of panels on one page it just has a full page and that's that's the that's the panel on that page it kind of can get a little weird it can be hard to see you gotta like pinch and zoom in to read the text and stuff like that but does the dc comics app have that ability to just do like a

single panel at a time uh i wasn't sure because i have been doing all full screen uh because the 11 which is great. But it does do that. You just double tap and then it switches into a panel mode and you can kind of just go through each individual panel that way. Nice. Yeah. Nice. That's really cool. All right. So for this week, I have the nothing buds a a little bit of backstory with me. I am a huge AirPods user. I'm a typical Apple person. I love AirPods. I've had them since the first AirPods came out. Those are the only wireless headphones, really the only headphones

I've really used since they've come out. I mean, right now, even recording the podcast, I'm wearing AirPods Pro Max, which are absolutely ridiculous for a bunch of reasons to record podcasts with. But I love AirPods. Absolutely love them. The switching between devices, multi-device pairing, audio quality, noise cancelling, especially like the AirPods Pro 2. Absolutely love those. The noise cancelling is amazing. my girlfriend and I moved in together, and part of that is I inherited a Peloton gem.

And super excited about that. But I didn't want to constantly have to un-pair my AirPods and then pair them with each device. So I started looking into headphones that had multi-device support, and I landed on the NothingBuds A. And these are from the company Nothing. And these are their more affordable headphones. It's weird because they have two options. They have these, the A, that are $100, and then they have their Nothing Buds 2, which are $150.

But from what I can find just kind of on the online discourse of them, the Nothing Buds A are just, like, perfect for my exact use case. So, first off, these are, like, the best-looking tech I have seen in a long time. I got the yellow versions, but they're not just like solid yellow. Yeah, right? So the part that goes in your ear is yellow, and the case is yellow. But the stems of them are this black and transparent tack, and it just looks so good.

I absolutely love the way these look. So much better looking than AirPods. AirPods are boring. Apple makes them in colors. But looking at AirPods or earbuds or whatever, that's not really, you know, it's about using them. Sound quality, they sound good. I do think the AirPods Pro 2 sound better. I've been pairing these with my phone just to play music and stuff like that and kind of compare them to the AirPods Pro 2.

But again, these are meant to be nothing's kind of more cheaper version. So it would be better to compare them to the current versions of the regular AirPods, but I don't have those, so I can't. But the thing that sold me on these is they have multi-device pairing support. So you can pair them to multiple devices, and you don't have to do the unpair and repair dance. So what I have them set up currently is I have them set up to the Peloton rowing machine that we have, which I love that thing.

But if you ever want to see like a second class tech citizen, Peloton rowing machine. It gets like none of the cool stuff that treadmill or the bike have. But I absolutely love the rowing machine. And then I also have them paired to the Legion Go. I kept the Legion Go. I talked about last time I thought I was going to return it. Nope, I kept it. Maybe I'll do a follow up on it on another episode about why and the stuff I was able to make work out of it. But ultimately, just being able to like just put these in and, you know, start on the rowing machine or use the Legion Go is really nice.

And then obviously I have my AirPods still for all my Apple stuff. But these are kind of my headphones for all my non-Apple gear, which have been really nice. These do have noise cancelling and they're fine. It more muffles noise rather than cancelling it. Like we have this dog across the street and you'll probably hear him pop up in the recording every once in a while. It just barks all day long. With my AirPods Pro 2 in, can't hear the dog.

With these in, I can kind of hear the dog. So that's kind of, I love how that's my, can I hear a dog bark is my new metric for is noise cancelling working. They didn't. Yeah, typically my meter for that is to go in the train. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I think you're right. It's really hard to find an alternative pair of birds that works really well in trains, for example, or even in the streets.

And Airports Pro are just above the rest in this regard. Well, like even my last the last flight I took, which was to the iPad event in New York, I didn't bring my AirPods Max. I literally just packed my AirPods Pro 2 because my backpack was heavy enough as it is. And I was like, I don't know if these are going to do a good enough job canceling out airplane engine noises. They did. I mean, you can kind of hear like the low hum a little bit bleed through, but it wasn't annoying.

The AirPods Max definitely are like top tier noise counseling option, but like they're big, they're heavy, they're very expensive and they still have lightning. So like the AirPods Pro 2 are kind of like my go to, like I need to block out the world around me and focus on what the task at hand or maybe there's just annoying sounds like airplanes or trains or whatever. So, yeah, those are kind of my go to. But these do fine. I feel like if I was like sitting in a coffee shop or something like that, being like a typical like artisanal writer, like I'm just going to like put in my AirPods or my earbuds, I mean, and, you know, write my screenplay or something like that.

It would do a decent job for that. But I think I would always go for AirPods Pro 2 if I really, truly need noise canceling at this point. I'm looking at their product page now. I don't understand why anyone would not buy the ear A's like you have. Yeah, the two versions, they're quote unquote pro versions. So there's nothing but two and there's nothing but A's. The A's are the lower tier one, the nothing but two are the top tier one. I can't really tell you what the differences are between them.

And I looked at it for like a good solid 10 minutes before I found like enough people I trust that basically say just get the A's and save 50 bucks. Because on the outside, they're the same, right? yeah i i think they're pretty much the same i know the case so the case of the nothing but a's is very unapologetic plastic like it's not like premium materials at all it's it's unapologetically plastic uh but it's fine like it gets the job done and it's yellow it looks really nice and it's smaller it the battery life is higher the uh when you add um the case battery to it it's higher than

the more expensive ones they both have noise cancelling which i think is kind of the big thing that gets people to upgrade from the normal airpods to their pods pro i know that is for me it's it's really interesting to see like apple's very clear markets differentiation versus these where like they've made a cheaper product that looks better in basically every way than their more expensive one i maybe just because it came out later i don't really know but yeah i would say the one thing that makes airpods kind of really stand above and noise

canceling stuff aside, like the airpods line in general is just how easy airpods pair to your Apple devices. And you don't really even need to think about it. There is a little bit of like, okay, I got to make sure that it connected to the rowing machine, or I got to make sure it connected to the Legion pro. And it's only supports two devices in the simultaneous. So like there's an app and you can go into the app and you can basically say like, hey, these are the two devices I want to use that you can just jump between.

But if there's a minute you want to add a third, it's like, eh, you got to unpair and repair kind of thing. So that's kind of annoying. I think that's pretty good still. Yeah, it is nice. It is really nice. It'd be cool if the AirPods supported that on top of the, you know, Apple device switching, but they don't. Yeah, that's always the thing with AirPods is like if you have multiple Apple devices, it's awesome for moving between things. But as soon as you enter anything else from any other company, then like you said, you're kind of out there like, OK, I need a new set of headphones because the AirPods are going to be annoying if I try to do this.

Exactly. And I've had my eye on these nothings earbuds for a while because I just like the way they looked. But I didn't really have a good use case for them to just justify buying them. But now that we have the Peloton stuff and I have the Legion Go, I'm like, OK, these are exactly what I need for these non-Apple devices. I did have one issue with them. When I had them paired with my iPhone, weirdly, I didn't have this issue with the Legion Go or any of the Peloton stuff. But when I had them paired with my iPhone, a couple of times, not a lot, but a couple of times, like, music would stutter.

Like, it would start playing and it wouldn't even pause. Like, audio would just not come through. And then the song would continue. Not that it ever paused. Like the audio just cut out. So it's kind of weird that that happened. But I don't know. It honestly could be because I have iOS 18, the beta, installed on my iPhone. It could be a whole bunch of different things. It's probably the iOS 18 thing now that I'm talking it out. But yeah. There is an app that you can download to kind of control these with.

And the app is actually pretty good. When I downloaded the app, I immediately was prompted with, hey, new firmware update. And one of the things we were supposed to address was better transparency mode and better base. And I could say, honestly, I noticed the difference in both the transparency mode and the base after I did the firmware update, which is good. Because, you know, a lot of times you do these updates and you're just like, is there a difference? I don't know. See every app AirPods firmware update towards you see the post on Mac rumors and everything.

And then, yeah, it's not what I have no idea what it is. And you can't force those firmware updates. And like you can't you never know when you're going to get them. It's weird. So weird. Another nice thing about the app is you can control the EQ again. Not really something you do with AirPods. So you can control, you know, you can set it up for spoken word stuff or more bassy stuff if you want. Just however you want to configure it. And you can also, what's really cool is you can go in and change what each control does on the AirPods.

So they have this squeeze gesture very similar to AirPods Pro where you can squeeze, you can squeeze and hold, you can like double click it and stuff like that. And you can actually customize it to be what you want. So for me, I just set it up so that it always matches the AirPods Pro 2, so I don't have to think about which headphones do I have in, which gesture do I use, you know, that kind of thing. It also has a low latency mode that you can enable in the app for games. What I'm unsure of is if I enable it in the app and then go back to my Legion Go, does that low latency mode stay enabled?

That's the thing I'm not quite sure about. um i should probably do some research and look into that but um i i couldn't i couldn't tell the difference between like going to my phone enabling that and then going to the legion go and and if like a before and after difference but for a hundred bucks i would say these are very good earbuds wireless earbuds um the case has usbc it supports wireless charging um which i thought was kind of interesting because it's very unapologetically plastic uh so i wasn't sure if i actually had i

looked it up before i even tried it because i was like afraid of like putting it on a wireless charger and like melting these or something i know it's probably not possible but still i was i was worried um but yeah they're they're really good headphones if you don't want to spend 200 on airpod pros or whatever and i think like regular airpods are like 150 or something like that so if you're like if your budget is a hundred bucks max yeah the euro price is 89 euro pretty good nice yeah nice yeah these these definitely fall into a category of product where just they look unique

enough and good enough that i kind of want them regardless of their quality so knowing that they're they're pretty good as well is for a really good price is is really encouraging so that's that's cool uh these i've seen i knew these existed but i hadn't really heard anyone uh talk about them at length so it's cool to hear uh what your experiences in with them uh which sounds pretty good on the whole yeah and like i said like if i if you were to come to me and say you had to choose between airpods pro 2 or these i would obviously pick airpods pro 2 they sound better noise cancelling's better but they're also double the cost and i think a little more i think

they're like 250 or something like that so yeah yeah so it's 150 us more um so that that could be frustrating but yeah would you choose these over regular airpods oh see that's a much better question but i haven't used regular airpods since airpods pro have been out so i the last time i've used regular airpods was when they still had like the long stem design so i i don't i don't know maybe i should pick up a pair of regular airpods just to no we're not trying to make you buy more things yeah just do it chris just buy just buy those yeah yeah i i you know i do it for the show i

need it for my work um oh my god but yeah that's that's a tough question just be just because like these are limited to pairing to two devices so yeah i compare them to my ipad and iphone but then what about my rowing machine and legion go and stuff like that so i'm not entirely sure okay okay yeah just just curious and um because yeah i think regular airpads are 170 uh normally so it's nearly twice the price so you could almost buy two of these for a similar price and then you could have four devices and then at that point i could get the black ones as well because the black ones look

really cool yeah those could be your professional ones yeah you have fun with the yellow ones but you like pair the black ones to your ipad and where you do your exactly the black ones are for work the yellow ones are for fun and workout and stuff like that this is logical yeah that makes sense you are saying this while every accessory on my desk is yellow right now so i'm not sure if I'm working? No, I'm having fun, I guess. I mean, my color coordination may be different than your color coordination.

I mean, for me, obviously, I wear black all day long, especially when I'm sitting in front of a camera and stuff like that. So black for me is work and yellow for me is fun. So, yeah. Yeah, I'm holding to the camera an old dusty iPod sock. That's sitting on my desk. and it's yellow orange and yellow actually but yeah i love it yeah all right so that's kind of it for me unless you guys have any questions um love these not going to replace my airpods pro

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you have something very exciting in the show notes as well i want to know everything yeah is it exciting well you you tell you tell us i guess all right um all right it's a bit of a story um I love this. Do you know the saying, if innate broke, don't fix it, right? Oh, yeah. Big fan of that. That can work with if innate broke, don't replace it, I guess.

That applies to my partner, but to an extreme level where this saying doesn't even work anymore. They have been using the same laptop for years and it's broken in every way. And they're still using it, right? But a fatal blow happened this week. They unfortunately dropped some water on the keyboard.

So, yeah, the laptop still works. It's an old ThinkPad X something, the tiny ones, the 11-inch display. But most of the keys don't work anymore. So it was time for an upgrade. For months, I've been trying to convince them to switch to a MacBook, right? because I've been using a MacBook Air M2 for a year and it's so good and it's really light.

And I think that would work really well for them. But they had their eyes on something called the framework laptop. Have you heard of it? Yes, I have been curious about this. I have zero use for it, but I have spent a lot of time on the web page thinking, oh, this could be a fun thing to tinker around with. Yeah, so I just had a vague idea about this.

But while we were having these conversations around the framework laptop, I researched it and I watched a ton of video reviews on YouTube. The Verge has a great review of their new 16-inch model. But long story short, I'm skeptical. So just to preface everything that I'm going to say, I have not tested this laptop, right?

So these are purely just preconceptions. But I think they're important preconceptions because it's a big expense. And we all have these conversations in our head before we make a purchase. So here are my preconceptions that make me think this is not worth it, at least in my partner's case. So long story short, the framework laptop is a laptop thought to be modular.

The company that makes this has been around for four years, I think, about four years. And the idea is they sell you a laptop on which there are module slots that you can upgrade and switch out. And you can choose what modules to put in. So you can have a Thunderbolt port in one. You can have an SSD slot in the other, an SD card, a display port, whatever you want. They sell a bunch of these modules.

And the idea is also that they are opening it to third parties so that people can make their own modules. This all sounds great. But I've heard this story before. I've heard this story before with something called the Fairphone. Have you heard of the Fairphone? Yes. Is this the one that was going to have these little tile things that you could snap together?

No, that's not the one. Oh, okay. Never mind. Sorry. I was thinking of something else. I was thinking of Project Ara. Oh, yeah. That's what it was. Okay. Yeah. That was a project killed by Google. But yeah, you're right to mention this. I had completely forgotten about this. But no, the Fairphone is actually a pretty successful phone in its own niche. they sell a phone that's meant to be pretty ethically good I guess where they are sourcing the parts where in environments where people are well treated and well paid and where

components are recycled etc so that's a pretty good concept but my worry about the phone and it i think we all can we can all agree about this um is that these phones are outdated very quickly and even though in theory anyone can make their own parts they don't really exist third-party parts don't really exist so as soon as the company

goes under, your modularity promise goes under. And that's been the case with the previous Fairphone models where some modules went away, some parts went away. And I think part of that promise isn't worth the price and isn't worth the fact that these phones, they don't have some of the performance you can get at that price point. And I'm not sure that it's worth the trade-off because as a result, are you going to keep that device for as long as you are going to keep an iPhone around, right?

I'm worried about this, about the framework laptop. So that's one thing. I'm worried about the modularity promise not being worth it because these are pretty expensive laptops, actually. And there's a good reason for that because the parts are pretty high-end. You're not gaining something super cheap. The parts are pretty high-end. You're gaining a performance device in the end. And that's pretty good. But again, this company has been around for four years.

Right now, they are the only ones, almost the only ones making modules for this thing. What happens if in two years, in their newer model, they change how the modules work? They change what size they are. And you see what I mean, I guess. So that's what I kept repeating to my partner because I wanted to get back to the idea.

How about a MacBook Air instead? And long story short, again, in the end, I was able to convince them and they ordered the MacBook instead, which is, I think it's a pretty big achievement because they've been a Linux head for years. I was never able to have them replace that old ThinkPad. And they had an older ThinkPad before that. And when that died, they chose to go to another ThinkPad.

yeah somebody that has set up hundreds and hundreds of thinkpads why would anyone go i i i i've set up literally um when covid hit we had uh we set up like a hundred thinkpads in like two days it was it was wild we literally had this conveyor belt system of just like knocking these things out. But anyways, yeah, please continue. Sorry, I interrupted. Oh, don't worry. I was just about to ask, what are your thoughts on the framework laptop? Am I too harsh on this concept? No. So I'm of two minds about it. On the one hand, I

do like the idea that i could change the ports because you don't necessarily have to wait like years to like swap out these expansion cards that they have it's like if it turns out you actually only need one usbc port and you would rather replace it with an sd slot that would be kind of cool uh or like if you're going on like maybe you work from home most of the time and you have a dock on your desk that has an SD card slot and you just use that so your laptop doesn't need it most of the time but maybe when you travel you want to be able to plug your cards right into your computer you could swap it out like for what you need um would this actually happen I don't know but I like the

idea of it um and the other thing I like is the I'm looking at their website now not necessarily the expansion cards but just seeing that you can buy new more memory and more storage and it's just industry standard parts that you don't necessarily need to buy from them that's awesome like last year i upgraded my macbook pro to an m2 model because the m1 model which was totally fine for everything i needed didn't have enough storage i underestimated how much storage i would need and the only way i

could upgrade was to buy an entirely new computer and trade in the old one which is so stupid so So just seeing them like that, like, oh, you didn't, you actually didn't need 512 megs. You needed or gigs. You needed two terabytes. No problem. Spend $60 or $100 or whatever. And boom, you've got all the storage you need in the same laptop that was already fast enough. So that part of it, I really like, but yeah, I mean, this idea that you're going to keep this for many, many years and you're going to swap out these expansion cards or third parties

are going to make them for a long time. We'll see. But yeah, that wouldn't be the reason to buy this for me. I think the things that would appeal to me are the more ethically developed and built. I kind of like it looks like you can buy them and build them yourself, which is cool. That hits the mechanical keyboard fan part of my brain. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, I don't know. I feel like you just buy the ports and stuff that you need.

you'd never touch them again, but the upgrade ability to the RAM and the storage. And I guess the CPU as well, in theory, if they, like you said, as long as they keep it consistent, that would be kind of cool. But yeah, so I like it in theory, but I don't know if I would trust it totally yet. The way that I was able to convince them on the port issue is I told them, well, I have all these dongles lying around. And are you going to realistically need an SD card that you can swap in and swap out when you can just plug in the dongle

for the few times that you need it? And yeah, I think that did it. In the end, they were about to order a framework laptop with all the modules being just thunderbolt ports so it's like yeah at this point you should just get yeah a macbook yeah and have a dongle i mean yeah the nerd in me loves the idea of this i mean it's one of the things that attracts me about the ipad the ipad is literally i i mean my old podcast was

called a slab of glass. It's a slab of glass. I could use the Apple Pencil and make it a notebook or a sketchpad or whatever, or I could put it in something like the Magic Keyboard case and turn it into a laptop or plug it into a monitor. And now I have a desktop. I love the modularity of that kind of thing. And like internal hardware modularity. Yes, please. I would love to be able to add another Thunderbolt port or an SD card reader or something to my computer. That would be awesome. But I would be very scared to make this my main machine and spend all of this money and jump into all of these like modular systems and stuff like that.

And because it's also going to be fiddly as well. It's going to be just like what I was talking about with the Legion Go last week. It's going to be fiddly. You're going to have to sit there and mess with drivers to get certain things to work right. And I'm sure they have a lot of that stuff on the first party side, like their modular stuff. But if this was to take off in third parties or to make modular stuff for these laptops, that's where things are going to get really fiddly. And you're going to have to accept that you're going to have to spend a lot of time getting this thing to work.

And for me, I just want to sit down and get my work done. I don't want part of my work to be making my computer work. I just want to sit down and do my work. Does that make any sense? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I agree. So, yeah, that was it. I was able to convince them to get a MacBook. Nice. I posted on Masternone, where's my check, Tim? Yeah, you have my address. I wish Apple had an affiliate program because, oh boy, the amount of iPads I have sold.

Yeah, that would be nice. Then you'll get the YouTube commenters who are like, see, now you're actually getting paid by Apple. I already get those. Might as well embrace it. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Apple has literally never bought or paid or done anything for me. In fact, it cost me money. You should see how much I've spent in travel in the last month just because of that. Like, yeah. Anyways, are we ready to move on to the challenge?

Yeah, challenge. challenge all right this week was my challenge and i wanted you guys to just do something with your travel back it could be big like replacing the bag it could be small like swapping out cables or redoing the organization so uh matt what did you do to your back okay so i have a horrendous travel system and that i really don't have any um but i do have a brevity uh jumper backpack like one of their camera backpacks, which is pretty small on the whole.

I think it's 18 liters. And I tend to use that. That's kind of like my carry on item for plane travel. And when I can, it's the only thing I bring on a trip. So I actually did an overnight trip this past weekend and I just packed my backpack and that was it. So all my clothes, all my gadgets and everything, everything in the backpack. And what I changed about it from normal is, well, number one, video watchers have seen this giant Vision Pro carrying case on my desk, which in my great history of unnecessary Vision Pro purchases, including the Vision Pro itself, this thing is huge and not great.

It looks really cool. I like how it looks. It's very functional. But it is so big. It is more than half the size of my backpack. So if you have a giant backpack, then maybe this is great. Or if you have another way to carry it, this might be great. But it is so big. What I did this time, instead of having basically my entire backpack taken up by this case, I wrapped my Vision Pro in a T-shirt and tossed it in the backpack. What? And it worked so well, even though I'm sure this is making tons of anxiety for people.

oh my god what are what i'm okay with it what you put your vision bro in a t-shirt so here's what i did is um i just love when chris is shocked in a t-shirt that thing is 3500 the t-shirt was five dollars so so here's how i think it's pretty safe um and here's why it was in my backpack which i carried just very gently uh because it was always with me i wasn't going on a plane i was just driving myself somewhere so i do what was going on with it

the whole time um i put a layer of clothes on the bottom of the backpack then i wrapped the headset place placed on top of the clothes then i put more clothes on top of it so it's nice and cushioned i made sure that the lenses weren't going to be exposed and uh it took up as little room as possible it was great i'll do it again no okay i'm i'm texting in our in our chat i'm texting a link and we will put it we'll make sure we put it in the um in the uh in the show notes um are you going to make a t-shirt recommendation no not a t well yes uh pair of thieves black v-necks that's

that's my go-to t-shirt but not for wrapping up vision pro i would probably wrap it in the RepaVision Pro in that. That might be a little nicer. But I'm telling you, a $5 t-shirt works great. No. No, go to Waterfield Bags, SF Bags. Waterfield's name of the company, their domain is SF Bags. No idea what happened there. Anyways, they made a shield case for the Vision Pro. And what's different between their case and literally everybody else's is they came up with the ingenious idea of, oh, hey, you can detach the head strap.

so we can make our case like half the size of everyone else's case so literally you pull off the whether you're using the solo knit band or the dual loop band or whatever you pull that off and you poke it you put it away in a pocket you put the vision pro in a case you zip it up and it's nice and protected and it's not wrapped in a t-shirt um it's it's like a little it's a little pricey it's 200 bucks but yeah i was about to say that's your alternative i mean five dollars it's hot to beat but you spent $3,500 on a vision pro a minimum minimum 3,500 uh if you're like me

and bought the one terabyte you spent a lot more um i was promised final cut uh anyways um no um t like you spent that much money spend a little bit more and get a good case and protect it but well i'm mortified right now i have nothing left i am absolutely so i spent all of my money on the vision bro and now all i have are t-shirts and those t-shirts are great and i also if it really makes you uncomfortable i could wrap it in like three or four t-shirts would that would that improve things or is that just uh i guess technically

that would be an improvement but i i like i like this because matt is like he's of the people you know yeah yeah it's like he's a peasant who just got to buy at one point a vision pro and he's got to deal with it now and your solution is to buy a 200 case i mean but the amount of money you spent on it that's how i justify it because the amount of money you spent on it anyways i i i this is

gonna give me i think we should vote the majority among us and i'm totally getting outvoted here we don't even have to vote i know i'm outvoted here you don't know elections are elections chris you can't you can't know that's true yeah you guys ever hear the rule chris's get to vote twice no i did i i i think we we did not have make that rule when we started this podcast is that the second amendment yes yes you guys have amendments i hear yeah that's that's it's always worked out very well for us yes um okay so the thing i actually changed about my backpack

because that one was just supposed to be a side note uh that momentarily made especially chris angry I finally created a charging bag with all my charging needs for when I travel because I used to always put things in there like I just go around the house and like unplug things and put them in my backpack now I have a little baggie that just sits in my backpack and is exclusively for travel it's a single charging brick with two usbc cables and that's all I ever need so that's it um and that

I don't think anyone will have any issues with but yeah you can save a lot of space if you just wrap a vision pro and a t-shirt and uh yeah i'm pretty happy with every single bit of my travel setup nice well i i i approve of having a charging bag in your backpack like i am a big believer of your travel bag you should never take stuff out of it when you're at home that that should always be that you should have copies of whatever you need duplicates so that way when you leave so many times in the past like years and years ago i didn't have the duplicates of cables or hubs or whatever

i needed and i would leave it at home and i would just be uh thinking i trying to think of a word i could say on this podcast insert whatever you know adjective you'd like here but um yeah no uh big big big approval on a cable bag nice okay so chris tell me how to actually do it okay all right so i did a couple of things um i have a bunch of travel this summer like starting

with uh the ipad event and going into like september october i i just have a bunch of travel this year uh normally i'm not like i i'll have like a couple of trips throughout the summer but this year i've got a bunch and a lot of them are two to three day trips like three days maximum and i am a pack light person. By pack light, I mean, bring the minimum amount of bags I can possibly bring. Like, I don't, I, like when I went to the iPad event in New York, I literally just had a backpack with me.

I didn't bring a carry, I didn't bring a carry on suitcase, check a bag or anything like that. I literally just had a backpack. I walked through New York with just a backpack. It was great. So the bag I've been using is the nomadic Peter McKinnon camera backpack, 35 liters. I will just say right up front, this thing is stupid expensive. It is not a normal everyday backpack. But if you are somebody that travels a lot, even if you don't bring camera gear, this might be something to look at. So it's got a bunch of compartments, it's got a slot for a laptop, iPad, whatever. Then there's the main compartment, which is like this big empty canvas area, like it's this big cavern, basically.

And you can set this up for camera gear. It comes with like dividers so you can put all your camera gear in there snugly. But you could also use this for just about anything else you want. If you just want to leave it as an open cavern and stuff sweatshirts or stuff you're traveling with or whatever, like it doesn't have to be camera gear. That's one of the things like whenever I talk about camera backpacks, people go, oh, well, this is really specific to you. I don't travel with a camera. I'm like, if you need a really big backpack to put a lot of stuff in, a camera backpack is a great place to look because they don't have to, you don't have to put cameras in there.

The IRS will not come to your house and like haul you off to jail if you put stuff other than cameras and camera backpacks. That's just, well, for now at least. But the other compartment of this backpack is for clothes. So there's the laptop part, the camera part, or the cavernous part, but then there's this clothes part and this part can expand too. So I'm able to fit three, even four days worth of clothes in this backpack along with toiletries and stuff like that. I'm able to pack it full so that this is the only thing I am like carrying on a plane or walking

around with or put it in my car on a road trip or something like that. I don't have to worry about a bunch of suitcases or anything like that. I can just live out of this backpack for a couple of days. It's not really feasible if you're going to be traveling for five days or a week or something like that. That's probably where I would grab a suitcase then. But for two to three days, it's utterly perfect. But it's super customizable. There's a ton of accessories for it. Like I have the battery case and the card reader and all that stuff.

But one accessory that I really love with this system, because it is a really big backpack, What I like to do is I like to get to a hotel, leave that backpack there, and there's a bag within the bag. So they have this camera cube backpack thing. That's a 21 liter backpack. That's the bottom. You can stick your camera and then the top, you can stick your laptop or a small laptop. You probably could. I don't think you could fit a 16 inch laptop in there, but my iPad fits in there. You can stuff all that, drawstrings closed and stuff like that. You can just walk around with the smaller backpack.

So if you're doing stuff, love that a lot. so that's kind of the bag recommendation i've been doing so i i the one thing i'm curious about is this looks it's definitely a lot bigger than mine this fits nicely under like an airplane seat still is this still a fine area i i always put it in the overhead bins um it doesn't quite fit i i tried to make it fit underneath the the regular economy seat stuff and uh the the airplane stewardess

came over and was like and i was okay dang it so they made me put it up um i've never really had issues getting uh overhead bin space especially because if i'm just traveling with this they're kind of like well you just have that like you don't have a carry-on as well like i don't i never get stopped and and asked to check the bag but also i wouldn't let anyone check this bag because one it has my camera gear in it but two it has a bunch of lithium ion batteries and you're not allowed to check lithium ion batteries so that's my way of being like oh sorry can't check this and just kind

of escape that route and like matt i actually uh did some changes to my kind of charging setup as well uh one of the big things i did is i took out all the lightning cables lightning cables are gone i can travel with just airpods pro too i don't need to worry about charging up the airpods max iPhones on USB-C, AirPods, two on USB-C. Everything's on USB-C that I travel with. It feels amazing. It feels so good. So what I did is I am using now the Ugreen Nexo Pro 160-watt charging brick.

Disclosure, this was sent to me as a sponsor thing, but I really like it. I like it a lot. It's really good. It's one of those ones that has three USB-C ports and a USB-A port, more than enough for what I need. So I can plug everything in. Yeah, it works really well. And then when I'm kind of in a hotel, I use the 3-in-1 Travel Charger MagSafe from Mophie. This thing is awesome. I love this thing. So I just set this up on the bedside table when traveling.

I can charge AirPods, my phone, and my Apple Watch all from this device. I don't need to bring separate cables for my Apple Watch. I don't need to worry about having enough cables to plug in both my AirPods and my iPhone. I literally just plug one cable into this and it handles everything. I have had some weird issues using this with other power bricks, though. It really wants you to use the official one. It works fine with this Ugreen Nexod one, and it works fine with the old Anker one I used to use. But if you get this, try it out with the power brick you're going to bring with you or just bring the one that ships with this.

But yeah, another thing I did is I when I took out all the lightning cables, well, one lightning, it was one lightning cable and one mini USB cable that was to my old mic system. I took those out. I replaced everything with 10 foot USB-C cables. Love a good 10 foot cable. Especially like if you're sitting in bed in a hotel where you plug in the power brick, sometimes like if I'm going to work on my iPad in bed in a hotel, sometimes the six foot cable just isn't quite long enough.

And the 10 foot just gives you that extra reach, that perfect reach. I love it. So I have three of these in my bag now. And then I have one Apple Thunderbolt cable, just the regular one meter or three foot or one yard, whatever you want to call it. I don't care. One of those for all the data stuff. So I travel with an external drive and a CF and CF Express and SD card reader. Both of those require a USB cable to go into them.

Well, they both came with their own individual ones, but I was like, why am I carrying these extra cables when I could just have one Thunderbolt cable. And that could be the cable I use for data transfer because again, I have an iPad, so I can't plug more than one data device into it at a time. So I'm like, I only need the one cable. So I'm now just traveling with this one Thunderbolt cable. And then the two things that need USB-C to plug into them, I just don't bring those cables with me, the cables that it came with. I'm using the Anker 24,000 milliamp hour battery pack. This thing

is a beast but it's amazing it saved my bacon at wwdc a couple of times just being able to charge my ipad up from zero and have enough battery to work off of great it's got a screen on it too it looks like it looks really fancy it can show you what the output wattage is how many battery cycles you've used it what the battery life is left on it it's got a bunch of different interesting information what a gadget i love it there's a new one too this isn't even the newest one you can still buy this one but there's one that's a 27 000 milliamp hour battery this is the

one of federico and john have that um it not only is it a bigger battery but it also has a base station so you can dock the thing and then it has like usb ports on the side so you can charge even more stuff it's wild uh i i can't quite justify buying that the 24 000 one has been fine for me and it's it's still working just fine but when this one goes i'll buy the i'll buy the one with the base station because that's just cool yeah this looks really nice and then the last thing i swapped out was the kensington knucklum usb hub i've had that thing since the 2018 ipad pros have come out love that

hub, it's just really big. And I don't really need a port hub anymore. Like there's not been a lot of times in the last year, I've really needed a hub when traveling, but I wanted something. So as part of a sponsorship thing, Anchor sent me these the small like USB-C hub that plugs right into the side of an iPad. It's got like USB-C port, USB-A, HDMI, and a headphone jack. And really, if I kind of sat down and I thought about like, what besides the USB-C ports that are built into iPad? What are the actual ports I've needed with my iPad in the last year? And the only two I can think of was HDMI and headphone jack. And that was when I gave that talk at the Final Cut conference.

So I was like, I think I could just get away with this much smaller, much more compact USB hub. And just it's lighter too, not by much. But the whole point of this is I was trying to take all the stuff i didn't need out of my backpack and have less stuff in there and stuff that's lighter so that i don't feel like my back is gonna get broken when walking around and stuff with this backpack even though i pick like the biggest backpack i could possibly pick um i have a question how is the headphone jack um and what by that i mean when i get a dongle with a or a hub like this with a

headphone jack i tend to be really picky about the quality of the jack what do you think of this one i i i i honestly can't tell the difference between headphone jack quality it seems fine literally the only thing i've used a headphone jack for in the last year uh besides recording this podcast but specifically when traveling the the only thing i've used it for was when i gave that talk at the final cut conference i needed to get audio out of my ipad into the um conference room speakers and stuff like that so that's the and at that point i don't really care about the audio

quality it was literally just to demo some audio stuff in final cut so um i'm not a big wired headphone person i'm uh much i love wireless headphones in fact um this is going to um make a lot of people mad i edit my videos using airpods and same thing with this podcast i use airpods to edit these these stuff um yeah i don't i don't actually use wired headphones to edit i'm not disheart that's that's even worse than my vision pro carrying case there's no latency at all i promise there's latency there's so much latency i can't i cannot tell the difference

yep yep yep yep yep anyway so that's kind of what i did in my bag any any other questions on it you started uh you started by saying um i travel light right yeah that's a lot of stuff well i travel light but i bring the stuff that i have to have so like if i'm traveling for work yeah i have to have my camera i have to have a mic system i have to have clothes i mean do you yeah do i have to have clothes uh i don't think yeah to wrap your vision pro yes yeah no you know what's funny is i actually haven't other than like when before my girlfriend and i lived together i haven't really

traveled that much with the vision pro like even when i went was flying and stuff like that i just watched movies on my ipad because like the vision pro was like a whole to-do to set up and stuff like that but anyways like that's that's that's uh that's a topic for another episode all right um so on my hand on my end um i'm i'm one of the people again right so yeah i don't travel much

and so i went about this thinking about my everyday bag right and when i take with me when i go into the city which almost never happens as well but sure um i have a a cable couch a cable couch a cable pouch i have a cable pouch that i got in a bundle it's on amazon i have a link in the in the notes um it was in a bundle with a laptop sleeve which

is really nice it's a padded one i have no idea what brand this is i got this a long time ago and still does the job. So I still use that. What I did is I went over what's in this pouch. I have an Anker 20,000 mAh battery and it's an older one. It doesn't look as cool as yours, chris but um but it works fine and actually i had to replace it recently because i had an older

anchor battery that had a lightning bolt on it and i was really big fan of that one because i simply could have a single cable with me at all times and that was a lightning cable So that was another time. And that cable could be used to charge the battery and the phone at the same time. But these days, I have this battery which has a USB-C port and a USB-A port, and that does the job.

And I have the Max F Duo. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. I had one. Apple doesn't sell those, right, anymore? No, I don't think they do. But anyway, so I still use the Max F Duo. It's really nice. I used to have it because, yeah, so it charges your Apple Watch on one side and it has a regular Max Safe plug on the other side. These days, I don't wear my watch anymore. Almost never wear it because the battery is so deteriorated.

Oh my God, this word. So that I don't wear it anymore. But it still works as an AirPods charger, actually, because you can, the AirPods Pro 2 case, you can put down on an Apple Watch charger. That's right. And it charges. Yeah. I forgot about that. So you still have one that, if you still have one lying around, you can use that as a double charger for your iPhone and AirPods. But besides that, I told you last week I have a bunch of bags.

in my closet. So I tried going through my bags and I'm picking the one that I was already using. And that is a backpack that I got at a Hema store. I don't know if you know Hema stores. Yeah, so that was a cheap backpack that I got a long time ago. It's basically, it's a really lightweight backpack it's basically meant for summer it's really lightweight and the texture is really is really breathable I guess

and so I still use that and that's pretty much it but I have two other recommendations that go that often go in my bag and that is on one hand one Elago accessory Elago is a really good brand that I love because they make a bunch of accessories some are really fun like I have this fun iPhone stand that looks like a classic

Macintosh that you can put on your desk you slip a MacSafe pack inside and you can have your iPhone on top And it looks like a fun, fun tiny Macintosh on your desktop. But anyway, Elago also makes a bunch of iPad accessories and they make a magnetic iPad case that I've been using. And I also have their iPad stand on the desk, which is also magnetic and it is compatible between the two.

So if you have the magnetic case on the back of your iPad, it can snap onto their stand. So that's a, those go well together. So the magnetic case, otherwise, it's a really standard case. It looks a lot like apples, where you can fold it back onto itself into a triangle shape. So it can, it can be held upright. Otherwise, it's really thin. And my final recommendation is go to Ikea.

Why? Do you have an idea why I'm about to say go to Ikea? Because they have meatballs. No. Actually, yeah, because they have great vegetable meatballs. Vegetable meatballs? Wouldn't that be vegetables then? Yeah, yeah, something like that. I don't know. Yeah. vegetarian versions of meatballs okay does that make sense um my room is heating up so badly right now i am yeah no same here same here um so yeah go to ikea because i love their cables they make

cables um and i have a bunch of them they make usbc cables and lightning cables my phone is an iPhone 14 Pro so I still have to have a lightning cable with me and IKEA cables are really good they braided and they some of them have have a tiny strap that's that's a coil around them so it means you can tie them up really quickly it's an

elastic strap that you can and you can tie them up really quickly and you can make compact them really quickly into your bag uh i really recommend them and they're i don't know mfi certified if that's still a thing and they are pretty cheap yeah yeah they've got a yellow one here oh yeah i've got a yellow one that's three dollars wow they're really cheap and the um the lightning ones are a bit more expensive and i think they're just simply applying the mfi tax on there because they're exactly the same there's just a lining uh end on it but yeah that's uh i've

heard good things about their cables i just i've never tried them um i i have a question for you this ipad stand the elgo magnetic ipad stand you have to use their case in order to get the get it to work right or does it line up with the normal ipad magnets so it doesn't line up with the ipad built-in magnets on the back however when you get the stand they include a tiny circle uh thingy a tiny circle magnet that you can stick on to something like you can stick stick it on onto

the back of your ipad directly but you can stick it on top of any ipad cover i guess and actually i I got their stand before I had the case. So I had to do that. I stuck the circle on an older case, and that worked well. But at some point, I wanted to get the case. So now it's really nice. Okay, cool. That's awesome. I like it. I like it. I like this backpack, too. I was going to say, I like the backpack, too.

I like the little palm tree on it. On the zipper. Yeah. all right I forgot to say so the link that's in the show notes oh no that's not my exact back because the one I got I just cannot find on the website anymore so that's probably a collection or something but it's basically the same one but my mine doesn't have the little palm tree but it has multiple palm trees.

Let me show to the camera. On mine, there's a pattern of palm trees all over the backpack. And this is why you should be watching the video version of Comfort Zone. Along with downloading the audio version. Do both. All right. Neilian, what is your challenge for us to do this week? Yeah, I'm heating up. Yeah, I have a challenge for you guys. I told you, I think last week, or was it two weeks ago, I told you that I like to journal.

I use day one as my journaling app. Yeah. I've been using that app for years. And I know you guys are not into journaling as much as I am. So my challenge for this coming week is that you start journaling. Okay. I like it. At least for a week. Let me encourage you to think outside the box. And by that, I mean, don't necessarily, if you want to, go ahead, but don't necessarily just get a journaling app or buy a notebook or just think outside the box.

You can journal in lots of ways. voice notes, calendar events, captioned photos in your photo library. Anything you can think of can work. Interesting. I like this. I like this one a lot. I actually have a secret, but I will share with it. Share you. Never mind. I like this one a lot. Oh, my gosh, it's getting so hot in here. I like this one a lot.

I have a secret, but I will wait until next week to share it with you all. So, yeah, I think that just about does it. Our thanks to listenlater.net for sponsoring this episode. And a special thanks to MacStories for hosting us. We are a MacStories podcast, after all. Niléane, say goodbye and tell everyone where they can find you and what you're up to this week. All right. So, goodbye. Find me on Mastodon at Niléane.

And I'm going to write on MaxRis very soon about a new popular app update that's coming out very soon. Oh, yeah. Stay tuned for that. Matt, say goodbye. Where people can find you and what you're doing this week as well. Goodbye. I have nothing going on, but you can find me at birchtree.me if you'd like. And I'm Christopher Lawley. You can find me on YouTube at just Christopher Lawley, L-A-W-L-E-Y, or you can go to the untitled.site.

And I am working on videos this week. I am doing a huge push to get a bunch of video stuff done this week because next week I have something very special happening that I'm very excited about that I can't talk about just yet. But you all will see it when it happens. So, yeah. Thank you all so much for listening or watching or wherever you're getting us. You can find us on MacStories. Find us on MacStories' YouTube page. Thank you all so much. Have a great day.