The Statue of Liberty is Full of French People

Every time. Welcome to Comfort Zone, a podcast all about pushing your hosts, well, outside of their comfort zone. I'm joined every week by two intrepid co-hosts. First up, Matt Birchler. Matt, how are you? Chris, I am feeling alerted, well alerted this week. I feel like I use Intrepid already. I might have just recycled that one. Yeah, you did. You did. Okay. Well, we're also joined by Niléane, who also is intrepid, apparently.

But I reused that one, so I've ruined the whole bit. How are you, Niléane? I'm fine. I look, once again, I look extremely tired. And I'm not wearing sunglasses this week to hide it. But one of us is. So, watch the video to find out who. It's funny that you come in and you mentioned you're really tired. It's like 8 a.m. for me here, so I'm like, I just rolled out of bed. I'm like, okay, all right, let's get this day started.

So I know how you feel. It's the evening for me, almost. Well, I'm a morning person, too, so I'd much rather be doing this in the morning. But, yeah, I understand the feel. We have something we need to address. And Niléane, I'm going to let you take the reins here because you kind of handle all the posting and what's going on there. But we have something we need to address. Yes. So last week, we decided in the moment, in the spur of the moment, to give democracy a go and let people choose who won last week's challenge,

which was to pick the best mobile game for everyone, right? So I posted a poll on our account on Mastodon. The choices were Pile of Poker on Pusmo. That was Matt's pick. Coffee Golf, that was Chris. The best pick. Sure. And my pick, Mini Motorways. And so let's just say first that I messed something up because we like the episodes come out six days after we record them.

Right. Yeah. It's basically a week like in between. Yeah. Yeah. Very strange. We live like a week in the future of the podcast. So when the last week's episode came out, that was yesterday for us right now. So when I posted the poll, I imagined, okay, let's make this poll last seven days. Right. I set the duration to seven days so it can last until our next episode and not realizing that we would record the next episode the very next day. So that poll should have had a duration of 24 hours or less.

So, yeah. But still, yes, it's pretty, the results are relatively clear. I just pulled the poll up. This is sad. I don't like this. I have something to say about it, but you guys can share the results. The results are, and our next president is, in last place, Pile Up Poker is at 15%. And on the second place is Coffee Golf at 19%.

And Mini Motorways, our next president is at 60%. 66% of the votes. And there were a total of 78 votes. All right. Clearly, this is a rigged system. Ask anyone, I won. I asked my mom. I asked my girlfriend. I had the best pick. Clearly rigged system. Deep state France at work. You know what, Matt? I actually have a theory. You know how France gave us the Statue of Liberty?

It's actually a Trojan horse. It's full of French people. I mean, have you ever been inside the Statue of Liberty? I haven't. I have not. It's full of French people just voting for Niléane. That's all it is. That's an incredible long con that they had going. Yep. So, respectfully, I respect the win. It was well played. Respectfully. You cheated a little bit. I think, here's my conspiracy theory, is a little less crazy than the Statue of Liberty is full of French people.

it is crazy you chose an incredible game that also has a daily component and i think people like the game and they just voted for the game that they like not necessarily the daily part of it i could be wrong so you just so in a nutshell you just said i picked the best game and for that i cheated okay yeah i think that's uh yeah well not when you say it that way no i will Neilion clearly cheated, influenced by the deep state of France and the Statue of Liberty, that's full of French people.

Oh no. Yes, 100%. That's exactly what it is. I agree that I rigged the system a little bit. But you went for it. Why complain after the results? I mean, that's easy. You could have complained last week. This is how shows like Connected get going, where they have crazy rules and there's arguments all the time. And that's where the show is headed if we're not careful. It's 100% where the show is headed. No, I mean, we're also Americans. And, you know, this is what we've learned from our political system is.

If we don't like the results, we just say it was rigged and that the deep state was going against it. Like, you know, clearly, look, I asked my mom. I asked my girlfriend. I clearly had the best game. I don't know why I wouldn't have won. Like, they're very unbiased people, you know, my mom and my girlfriend. If you know anything about France, you would know that it's not a deep state. It's a very shallow state. There you go. The shallow state of France conspired against us. Okay. All right. Anyways, we should move on.

Congratulations on the win, Nelian. I will concede. I'm waiting another six days. I mean, it was definitely really close, though. It was really close. Yeah, I'm still waiting. Even if we added Matt and Mines together, it still wouldn't be close. So I'm okay. We'll move on. But we actually had a kind of a different idea that spurred also from last week's episode to do things a little differently with this week's episode. So instead of each of us bringing a individual topic to discuss about, we thought we would talk about one big topic, and that is notifications.

We kind of had this idea. Matt brought up notifications last week, and each of us went like, yeah, we kind of have our own philosophy for dealing with notifications. So we kind of all just chatted in our text group and realized like, hey, we should just do one big episode on this, and then we'll also do our challenge at the end of the episode as well. But do either of you want to go first about how you handle notifications, and we can just dive right into this? All right. So I have two things to mention. um the first thing is that i use on a daily basis a notification feature on ios and i guess it's also on ipad os but i'm talking about the iphone here um that's very unpopular can you guess what

it is is it notification summary because i use that as well and love it that's it yes summaries yes we're the same team here sure what do you use it for i i literally use it for all everything that isn't timely i'll save i have literally a document in obsidian called my my notification philosophy like i i'll go through it all but basically anything that isn't a timely

notification like phone calls messages some specific stuff i'll really go into everything goes in a notification summary for me okay so okay so we're not using it for the same reasons um oh yeah the reason i'm using scheduled summaries on ios is because um for the past few years So it all starts in 2017. No, I don't know. When did Apple News launched? It started when Apple News launched.

Because Apple News launched in a bunch of countries, in a handful of countries, except in France. So except in most countries, actually, but not in France. So I don't have Apple News. I know that Apple News is one of the most hated apps by people who have it. It's pretty bad. Yeah, I hear it's pretty bad. But here's the thing. I have been looking for ways to get a quick way to check on the news every so often during the day.

And Apple News seems to fill that purpose, right? So general news, political news, international, home issues, etc. I want to get an app that catches me up every so often during the day on the news. And I don't have Apple News to do that. So I have been using something else instead. I've been using Google News. And Google News is an okay app. And I mean that in the worst way possible.

It works. It's got a decent UI, actually. You get your top headlines. And it's pretty good at catching you up on local news too. So I can get in the same place international news and local news, politics, and environmental news that I read a lot, etc. All on the same big page that I can scroll through during the day. That's pretty good. But Google News is also extremely bad at not shoving ads in your face everywhere.

And I hear it's the same story about Apple News. So whenever you tap into a headline in Google News, you get into a web page, right? You see the article on the web, but that's in the in-app browser of Google News. And it doesn't let you easily jump into your default browser, into Safari, for example. And it's a two-tap process, even three-tap process, where you have to go through the share sheet.

And I think Google News used to have its own share sheet. So anyway, so that was a double tap. Terrible. So all that to say, I don't have a very good way to get a summary of news. And this is where scheduled summaries come in. So my strategy for the past, actually about a year, something like that, I have installed a bunch of publications on my iPhone.

I have installed Le Monde, the app, the official app Le Monde, other publications such as Liberation, so a bunch of French publications, as well as international ones. My favorite one these days is Deutsche Welle, which is a German publication that focuses on international news and it's in English as well as in German, which is great because I'm trying to keep up my German level, even if it's not great. So I install all of these news apps, right?

Individual news apps. But I keep those in the app library. I never have them on my home screen. I never go into them manually, if you see what I mean. What I do is in each of these apps, I enable push notifications. And some of these apps let you enable push notifications for specific topics. And specific tags. Or only for breaking news, for instance. So for some of these apps, I only want to enable breaking news because I know they focus on the right breaking news that I want to get.

So yeah, I have done this work. And all of these apps, instead of having their push notifications appear as regular notifications, I put them in the scheduled summary and I've programmed three times during the day where the scheduled summary appears in the morning, at noon and in the evening. And I really like the collage that iOS makes of this when it appears on your lock screen.

So you've got a bunch of bubbles almost where you've got the headline, the big image, the hero image of the articles. And you type on an indication and it jumps right in the article inside the app. And hopefully the apps in questions are not too bad, but most of them are okay. And that's why, specifically why and how I've been using scheduled summaries just to get the news. Interesting. No, I like this philosophy.

I just wonder, like, is there not any other, like, Apple News-like app that kind of gathers news from different sources in France? or that can do this without needing for you to set up a bunch of these apps manually in notification summary, almost a notification center, name branding and stuff like that. But are there just not a lot of apps like these for France? The short answer is no. And the longer answer is there are some, but they're really bad.

Okay, gotcha. And the better and the best one is Google News. okay all right gotcha yeah and i suppose since you're only you're subscribing to push notifications you're only going to get like the biggest stories the things they think are really important you're not getting the fluff that would just be algorithmically added to the normal app so you kind of have like a super app it just happens to be in the summary so that summary is just a bunch of news stories from your selection of apps yeah and i and i i should also mention that one thing that i like about notification the schedule summaries is that

if it appears at noon and uh it turns out that at noon i don't feel like i just i'm just seeing the first three headlines on the lock screen right the three biggest bubbles that appear i don't feel like reading anymore i just you can just swipe away the whole thing with a single swipe and it all goes away. And I've been really liking that. And I know that I can look forward to the evening and I'll get another one. Yeah, I like that.

See, this is why I don't get people that don't like notification summary because it's a great place to put things that don't need to be timely. Like you don't constantly want news articles popping up for you. And I have a few things I'll discuss when we get to me. But there's stuff that I just don't want popping up the second it comes out. I don't need to know when, for example, a new test flight is available for an app I'm testing or something like that. I don't need to know that very second. It going to notification summary is totally acceptable.

But yeah, I find this very interesting. Yeah. So I thought that would be more surprising to you, but I guess, okay. No, I like it. I mean, like I said, I like notification summary. I think this is a very interesting way of using it. It's kind of like you're building your own, well, it's exactly, you're building your own news aggregate service, and you're just getting the important bits without having to look at all the fluff. Because, you know, you don't really necessarily need the articles about the top 10 dog breeds.

And you won't believe how they'll expand your life. And you won't believe what happens next kind of thing. I don't know where I was going with that. I think you got it. You have a nice alternate future as clickbait headline writer. Well, if you ask some people on YouTube, I apparently do that by putting exactly what the video is about in the title of the video. What? Wild, I know. All right. Niléane, is there anything else you want to expand on about how you use notifications?

Okay. So that's the main thing. The rest of it is I'm pretty boring. Like, I disable almost everything apart from messaging apps and a few things like Fantastical and Notes, Apple Notes, and that's it. Like, I don't have anything else. Nice. No, I think that's a smart way to go. Matt, how do you handle notifications?

Well, I would say I've been radicalized over the last couple years when it comes to notifications. Ooh, this starts well. Yeah, always good. To start with, I've been radicalized. So, years ago, and for many years, for like most of my time using phones, I was a notifications maximalist. I wanted all the things right away. I wanted email notifications right away. I never got as many as you'd get, Chris, so it was less of a problem. I wanted breaking news notifications.

I wanted the one that might be controversial is I still actually have this. I need to turn it off probably. But in my RSS reader, I know reader, you can set up rules for specific feeds. And one of those rules is when there's a new item in this feed, just send me a push notification. And I have had that set up for Mac rumors for a couple of years. And this basically means I get a notification every time something in the Apple world happens.

So every time there's a new Apple TV Plus show airing that day, you get a notification from Mac Rumors about that? Guys, do we really need those articles? Like, do we really need them? Apparently, they are surprisingly popular articles. Wow. Okay. All right. Never mind. Resend it. So yeah, it's also terrible on Mondays when there's a new beta announced because I get like, there's a new watch OS beta, new iPad OS beta, new iOS beta, new Mac OS beta, new Vision OS beta. It's like, oh my gosh. So you're living that life.

Oh my God. Okay. Yes. And I think I can fix this for you, but we'll wait till we get to my turn. Okay. Perfect. I need help. And in 2015, when the Apple Watch came out, it was like, you don't need to take your phone out. It's going to be just hitting your wrist. You're just going to get everything right away. And I was like, yes, this is what I want. So that was me. The radicalization hasn't happened yet. That was radical on the other end, I guess. I literally quit wearing an Apple Watch because I got so tired of it just buzzing all the time.

It was triggering my anxiety. And I was just like, there were literal times where I would just rip my Apple Watch off my wrist and throw it across my desk because I was just like, it was just buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz. But I have solved that, but we'll get to it. um so so that was old me everything right away i want to be constantly like just clued into what's going on in the world and eventually that became too much i started to use uh scheduled summaries

i was kind of doing a similar thing uh with like a morning noon and night one and most things went in there but then i just found myself not reading anything in there so i was just swiping the whole thing away and I a few months ago just decided I don't want any notifications none of this is important I'll get to it if it's important so I do have them on for messages I have them on for my phone I have them on for my VPN app that I use for work because it sends push notifications to get me onto my work computer no I get that I totally get that but that's basically it I don't

do news notifications i don't do social media notifications i don't do discord notifications uh so i am slow to respond to discord so i'm sorry two people in discord who messaged me that way um i don't do anything and it's lovely because i'll just go to the apps i'll just go to the apps when i want and i'll read the news when i want i'll see my mentions when i want all that's fine and when something actually does buzz my wrist i know it's something that i actually care about and then we talked about it last week the last thing is in ios 18 reduce interruptions is a very

nice focus mode because you can set up all these like limits to say only let these like three apps through but then there's a toggle to say and if you think it's important send it to me and that's been really nice the last couple weeks having a couple notifications from other apps come through that actually are kind of more timely than typical stuff. So that's what I've been doing. Basically no notifications. And that's been nice. So you were never in the middle, right?

The closest I got were a few months when I was doing the summaries. Okay. That's strange. Do you use the summary feature now at all? No. No summaries. just important stuff like messages and stuff like that get through everything else no yeah that's that's pretty much it okay when when you use the summaries did you have it show up uh as a small banner before the scheduled time or did you disable that you know i did do that because sometimes like

a notification i actually did want would be in there and so i didn't want to like have to wait till new and to see that a package had arrived or something like that okay so that's the issue right you had you you have no nuance rude you you had everything in there why yeah i i'm the kind of person so my notification summary is completely hidden so it shows up for me at 7 a.m and 7 p.m and it just like obviously you can swipe up on notification center to get to it but

it's completely hidden unless i thought that that's what i'm talking about that's that's what i did as well oh i'm like always on the screen no so you have that enabled too chris okay yeah so i don't i don't have it like just showing up stuff like grouping stuff throughout the day i have it so that it's hidden until the notification summaries are delivered at either 7 a.m or 7 p.m um usually because i usually wrap up work around 6 p.m but i don't want to be bombarded with notifications uh because 6 p.m is when my girlfriend gets home from work and stuff like that so usually we spend a little bit of time together and then like i can get some stuff um done

and then 7 a.m is usually like when i start work so um yeah i i i like the notification summary feature but uh i i have some more to say on that but i'll wait wait till we get to me i'll wait just for now um okay anything else matt you got anything else on your notifications um the the only other thing is tangential and it is so a few months ago when i started like turning off all

notifications i then started to wonder do i need an apple watch anymore oh because if i'm not getting that many notifications do i need an apple watch and should i get i like having the time on my wrist So should I look at like just a traditional watch and see what that life is like again? Because I used to wear a regular watch before I got the Apple watch. And something's happened over the last 10 years of wearing an Apple watch where I think other watches don't look good and I wouldn't want to wear.

What? Or the ones that do look good. Like these like silver like these like silver like link bracelets I think look horrendous. I think like a like fancy watches look terrible. So I'm sure there's something I could get, but like the cost is huge or like I asked online, uh, if like what like affordable watches that looked good were. And there's a couple, but like everyone was like, well, you gotta be ready to spend like a thousand dollars to get like a really nice one. No, no, no, no, no. I, I, I missed that post. I'll send you my recommendation.

It's a Nixon watch. It's a really nice watch. It's like 150 to 200 bucks, just depending on which one you get. But it has a leather band. It looks really nice. I've actually bought two of these because I broke one. It was completely my fault. It had nothing to do with the watch. It was completely my fault. So I've had two of these, and I absolutely love them. They have a nice big face. They're not tiny, which is something I personally like.

I like a big, big, hefty face. But if it wasn't for some really specific things the Apple Watch does, I would be all in on mechanical watches again. I mean, that's when I quit the Apple Watch because when I was talking about, like, I just, my wrist was buzzing all the time. I went full in on mechanical watches, and I loved that period. But there's some stuff the Apple Watch does. And maybe we could do a whole episode about that. Yeah. that I just like, I can't, I can't be without an Apple watch. But the ultimate thing that I would love for Apple to make is either if a fitness band I could wear on my other wrist, or if they were

able to make one of those fitness rings actually be active, though I don't know how I'd feel about wearing a ring. I don't like wearing jewelry. It takes a lot just for me to wear a watch. But so I can also wear a mechanical watch. Yeah. Yeah. So the second part of this watch renaissance that I've thought I could have is I then started to use my watch and I was like, oh, I would really miss the fitness tracking. Oh, I would really miss the messages notifications on here.

Oh, I'd really miss being able to respond to things on here. I'd miss being able to set timers so easily. So I actually don't actually want a mechanical watch, but I might check out this one that you like, if it's only like $100, maybe it's worth checking out. It's like $150, I think. It's not more than $200. If I remember, I'm going to see if I can find a link for you right now. That's like half the price of the Vision Pro case you wanted me to buy. It's a deal. Matt, have you heard the good word about the Wichings watches?

I have not. You have not? Okay, look it up right now, maybe, if you can. The WeThings ScanWatch 2. That's a popular watch that's often recommended to me even though I don't really want it. I hear it's really good. It looks great. And it's smart, but in a subtle way, only shows you a couple of small things on a tiny display on the face. Otherwise, it's just a regular watch.

And yeah. it does fitness tracking i just put in our text group the uh the um watch that i own the one that i have is currently out of stock it's the brown leather strap one but uh there are a bunch of other ones that look really good in here as well but the one that i have is unfortunately out of stock all right i'll take a look at these yeah anyway tangent over chris i feel like you're gonna have something controversial for us i don't know if it's controversial but it's gonna be a lot it's gonna be a lot literally i wrote when i sat down to prep

for this episode i created a whole obsidian note called my notification philosophy and i honestly it looks like a video script like i could i could literally just sit down and turn this into a video right now uh so there's a lot to it so i i broke it up but we're going to start with the hierarchy of how i view notifications and like different apps so um like 80 to 90 percent of apps i have installed on all of my devices have notifications completely off they don't send banners they don't make noises they especially don't do badges most stuff is completely off um

ever since apple started allowing um apps to do um promo promotions via push notifications big apps have just like they they've just completely lost all value in their ability to send push notifications so most stuff just gets turned off now you're supposed to be able to if you have an app like uber doordash instacart something like that that like okay those notifications are actually beneficial to have they're supposed to be a way in the app to turn off promo materials now if that toggle is actually hooked up to something there's a 50 50 shot in that

to be honest uh looking at you uber who i've definitely turned off the promotion stuff too but i still get promo notifications um yeah but uh i just want to point out that is the worst one of the worst app store rule changes apple has ever done to allow promotions via push notifications it's terrible for a company that constantly talks about like we value our customers and stuff like that that that was it was kind of a slap in the face so coming in kind of hot already i knew it

um now if a notification sends important or i'm sorry if an app sends uh important but it's not timely. Now this is stuff like SQL, the app I use for media tracking. So new movie comes out, new episode of a TV show, new game or something that I've put in a list comes out, I get a push notification for that. Test flights, only over the summer, because right now like I'm

testing a bunch of apps for the iOS and iPadOS 18 release, and making sure I'm keeping up on those Release notes is actually really important. Music for like, I have it set up so that like when I favorite an artist, if they put out a new album or something like that, I get a push notification. PayPal, bank stuff, Overcast. All of this stuff gets put into the scheduled summary. There are no banners, there's no sounds, and there's definitely no badges. None of that stuff. It just gets put into the scheduled summary.

And I get a scheduled summary, like I said, at 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. uh there's a few other things in here but honestly you get the general concept of of the stuff that i put in to scheduled summary uh you know it's it's important for like bank stuff it's important for me to know when i get paid i'm i'm self-employed i do not get paid every other friday or whatever like most people um it's i need to be able to keep up on that stuff uh overcast i actually use the overcast notifications to manage my like podcast list so like if an episode of something comes out uh and it's like all about the mac or something i'm just not interested in i could just delete it

you can long press on the notification and just delete it from right there uh so there's that kind of stuff is important to me any questions so far yeah um what do you think of someone that said that pronounces scheduled summary schedule i i honestly don't know if i'm pronouncing it wrong or if they're pronouncing that schedule i just say schedule because i'm from california and that's how we say that word that's a region thing i think it is a regional thing i it doesn't bother me it doesn't bother me unlike some things um i i will let that slide uh because apparently i'm the emperor

of the world uh okay so here's where things get a little more muddied um app communication apps so stuff like discord uh i i'm a part of like i i don't know like a half a dozen discord servers i'm in but there are two discords that are fairly small one of which being the backstories team one that i get notifications from uh i also have set up to get notifications from mail but there is asterisk on this stuff so discord it's just those just those two discord notification uh it's just those two discord servers that i get notifications from uh but i don't get sounds and there's no

badges messages will just pop up they'll filter it and i can click on them and read them if i want or i could just move on with my day uh mail i do get notifications from mail but i use the vip contact feature so i am only getting notifications from people i specifically set up as a vip contact in mail this is the person that my manager that does all my ad sales and a couple of people from apple pr that's it uh like even you guys aren't vips in my mail app mostly because we don't send

each other emails we just text each other email you yeah you're smart like i don't even know if i I would have still vexed. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry. But both of these apps, they don't have sounds on. They don't have badges. But they're just stuff that, like, these might be important. Especially, like, when we were setting up comfort zone. It was really important to have push notifications on for Discord then. Because, like, we were talking with John and Federico about, like, scheduling and, like, really important details of stuff like that.

So it was important to have those on. Now it's just a fun Discord we're a part of, but I don't constantly check on it throughout the day, but I do have those notifications there. So if something important pops up, like breaking news or something like that, I might see that. And then mail, it's like, hey, this person wants to sponsor you, but you need to respond by the end of the day. That might be important. Or Apple PR reaching out and being like, hey, perfect example. I did that interview about SmartScript and MathNotes. Hey, we have an opportunity for you.

Let me know if you want to do that. That's the kind of thing. I get so much email. I use the VIP settings to kind of make really important people that actually do things for me stand out. So that's kind of that. There are a few other examples of getting notifications but not getting sounds or badges or anything like that. Like parcel. I get a lot of stuff delivered to me. I need to make sure I go and grab that before somebody comes and steals it off my porch. Which absolutely has happened in the past. So I always have parcel notifications come on throughout.

Wait, what's that? I'm wondering. I didn't get it. How do people steal your packages? It's like a thing in America. People will literally just be like in the middle of the day, they'll see a package on somebody's doorstep, and they'll just walk up and go and steal it. Like if it's too big to Fed in the mailbox or it's being delivered by like UPS or FedEx that doesn't have access to your mailbox, Like they will just walk up and steal it. It's absolutely a thing. So, okay. So that's the data that didn't have.

They, they leave the packages on your, on your doorstep. Yeah. So like if a package doesn't require a signature or if you do the thing where you like pre-sign for a package, yeah, they'll, they'll just leave it on your doorstep. And, oh yeah, it, it totally happens. I got an iPhone delivered one day when I was at work. Oh no. And I got the parcel notification and I told my boss, like, I have to go. Yeah. And I drove home and got the phone off the, because I lived in an apartment too.

So if you live in an apartment, it will, they'll just leave it in like a common area and anyone could just grab it if they, if they wanted to. 100%. I, I got a, um, a, uh, a big desk sent to me, like a big standing desk sent to me for, as part of a sponsorship thing. And it was when I was living in an apartment as well. And they just literally left it right outside for anyone to take. And it was the same thing. I had a day job. I told my boss, I'm like, I'll be right back. I didn't tell my boss at the time did not know I had a YouTube channel.

So I just told him, hey, I got a, I got an emergency. I got to step out really quick. Not wrong. I don't know anything about that. Never done that. Yeah. But the last thing that kind of fits into this category of like, yes, I get the banner and push notification, but no sound, no badges, none of that stuff is push cut. And this is the thing that I was referencing for Matt about how you were having like MacRumor stuff constantly pushed to you. So I use PushCut and Zapier together and RSS feeds.

RSS feeds are wonderful. There is a lot of automation you can do with RSS feeds. So the one that for you, Matt, that I would recommend is setting up Apple Newsroom. So Apple has a website called apple.com forward slash newsroom where they put out all their press releases, whether it's, hey, new products randomly dropping like AirPods Max. That was that was the first big one that I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm so glad I set this up because I got that push notification was able to order them instantly because none of us were expecting them to just drop like that.

But like you get all the notifications about stuff like that. Yes, there's some fluff pieces in there that you need to just kind of like whatever. But the way this works is I have Zapier set up to watch that RSS feed. And then when something new comes into it, it sends it to Pushcut and Pushcut sends me a notification. And I have it set up so that when I tap on that Pushcut notification, it goes directly to that link that was sent through that RSS feed to Zapier to Pushcut. So I can just jump right on it quickly. And if you pay for Zapier, you get it within like two minutes or something like that.

Like it looks at that feed every two minutes. So it's actually quite nice to have. I also have this set up for my YouTube channel and this podcast so that when there's a new video on my channel or a new episode of this podcast, I can run automation that's tied with it. And it'll post to Threads and Mastodon and my blog. So that's kind of nice. And I'm actually just now realizing I don't have the blog part set up for this podcast. I haven't been publishing those to my website. My bad. I need to fix that.

Yeah. okay so uh this this podcast is all about fixing stuff okay so before i move on to like the last the last bit in this hierarchy thing uh any other questions i was i was i just looked up the pricing for zapier and it would be the same amount that superhuman costs which is yeah i use it for some other things so yeah yeah for sure it's definitely more useful than superhuman and you're not a part of so um but yes it it is not cheap the the free tier of zapier is actually really useful and you can set all this stuff that i'm doing with uh zapier you can use the free tier with i just think

it refreshes every 15 minutes and not every two minutes so it's not it's not terrible it's the only time that might hurt you is if like apple releases a new product via press release and you're like not paying attention to the internet you might not be able to get it on day one right away but that's that's a totally separate thing all right so the last piece in this hierarchy the last piece is stuff like messages phone things and fantastical these are the four like critical apps to me if i have something going on it's in these if somebody needs to get a hold of

me it's either messages or phone if i have something like an appointment or something i need to do it's either in things or fantastic help so these are obviously allowed to send regular push notifications but they're also set up to make noises as well now when i say make noise it doesn't actually make noise ever since the iphone 15 pro came out my iphone has not uh ever made a sound uh it mostly just you know it vibrates or my wrist buzzes with the apple watch um so these these are like the

really core important notifications i know if one of these four apps is telling me something it's something i need to do or deal with uh but on all my apps except messages and things badges are turned off i do not like badges i hate badges i feel badges are like that they're nagging me to do something and that's why i use them in messages and things because if i don't have them in those two apps i could easily ignore those two apps and just move on uh but those are the only two apps that are ever ever ever ever allowed to have badges um next i kind of want to talk about the

devices because i think this is important as well because i i don't uh not everything is equal on all of my devices but before i do that do you guys have any questions about how i deal with notifications or how I allow notifications. Yeah. So like I said earlier, fantastical. I have the notifications enabled. And what I've done for the past few weeks because this starts with the fact that I hate standby mode on my desk.

I used to like it, but then I really started hating it. I've come around. I've stopped using it. Even at night, I've stopped using it. I think it's just way too limited. You often just end up having to turn the phone to portrait to be able to do anything. And some widgets don't display anything unless it's unlocked. And if it's not in a very specific place on your desk, then it won't be able to unlock. You have to move your head closer. Anyway, it's difficult.

So what I've been doing is I've been using my phone in portrait mode again on my desk, on the charger. And the result of that is I've been using live activities more. And specifically, Fantastical allows you to... It can spawn live activities for upcoming events automatically. And you can set it up to appear like two hours before an event or something like that. and yeah and it has replaced most alerts that I've had set up in fantastical before now I just have live activities for some events I think you can enable it per set per calendar set

so I've done that I've enabled it only for one set and it's been great because now I have the I I had the fantastical widget in standby mode, and that was nice. But since I'm no longer using standby mode, I just count on it to spawn a live activity when I need it to. And yeah, that's the job I would recommend. Nice. See, I'm kind of with you. I stopped using live activities. Or I'm sorry, standby mode. I stopped using standby mode, especially at my desk, because what I was realizing is the widgets that were displaying on my phone,

You can only see two of them at a time, but they were the same widgets that were on my iPad home screen, which was also on my desk because the iPad doesn't let you do clamshell mode. So I'm like, well, I just have the same information displayed here twice. And like also like if a notification or something came in on my phone or something like that, I just have to take the phone off the charger to deal with it. It was much better just leaving the the iPhone in portrait mode and not switching it over to landscape. And I also got really tired of standby mode at night.

I'm very, um, when I sleep, I'm very sensitive to light. Like in our bedroom, we have blackout blinds. I, I'm just, I'm very, very sensitive to light. And like, for some reason, even that dim red light of the, the iPhone screen was keeping me awake. So I was like, yeah, I don't, I don't like this. Like I just stopped using that. Uh, yeah, I was just going to say, I, I, I would love standby mode to work in portrait as well. Cause I, I like, I like standby mode quite a bit. I think it's pretty great. But you're right.

I have like a magnetic stand on my desk. And naturally, I want my phone to be in portrait there. But I want standby mode. So sometimes I'll manually turn it. And I get standby. And that's great. But then, like you said, a notification comes in. And then I can't just like tap my phone. I have to rotate it on the thing and then do like the interaction. So yeah, that would be fantastic. And then I've never used it in my bedroom. I've never even considered that. I guess you totally could. I wouldn't use the widget one.

I just use like this one of the standard clock ones. But I'm just I'm so sensitive to light that like it just it it was starting to bug me. And like in the middle of the night, I would just be taking my phone off the charger and putting it face down on my nightstand and stuff. So that was bothering me. All right, so I want to talk about the devices and what devices get what. And this might actually surprise some people. So for me, the iPhone is where all the notifications, like if I'm going to get a notification from an app, it goes to the iPhone.

The iPad is mostly just work stuff. So like VIP emails, very specific things, fantastical, that like core work stuff that goes to the iPad. And then my Apple Watch is just critical and timely stuff. So I do have messages on for it. But what I have done is busy group chats, which was what was bugging me when I originally had the Apple Watch in it. Like I was just like, okay, this is too much for me to deal with.

those have all been muted since um but like our like our group chat our group chat isn't that busy and it's usually like about something either fun like we found out something very interesting about neilion but i'll save that for her for when she wants to tell it we found something very interesting about neilion yesterday uh but uh we uh but like i i have some group chats that are like five or six people and i'm just like this is way too much and but you know what's really frustrating you guys every time my family like my dad's extended family and there's like 20 people in this family group

every time they want to do something together they create a new group message they don't they don't reuse the same one and some of them are green actually i take it back not some exactly one person is a green bubbler so it ruins it for the rest of us i do feel green bubble people deserve to be punished but no um you're ruining you're ruining everything for the rest of us i don't know why you feel you deserve to ruin the rest of our lives but whatever um but anyways they create a new group message every single time like hey we want to go out to dinner for someone's birthday

oh hey we're having thanksgiving at our house and like so i have to go in and mute it every single time so am i are they creating the new groups for specific topics is that what you mean that they They literally, it's the same people, but they're creating a new group message every time like, hey, let's go out to dinner for somebody's birthday. Or, hey, Thanksgiving's at our house or Christmas is at our house. They create a new thread. So I have to go in and mute it every single time. And I have, my mom got the honor of basically speaking for me and telling me what I need to know.

Because I got so mad at these group messages one day. Because it's just fluff. It's absolutely just fluff. And then, Mike, I'm so glad my family doesn't listen to this podcast. Because I get in so much trouble. My cousin had a new baby. Recently. And because my aunt is the green bubbler. She can only add so many people to message threads. But she wasn't keeping track of who she was adding to message threads. So I got put on three different message threads about this new baby and was constantly getting pictures sent to me and told, guys, I don't have kids.

I don't want kids. I don't, I'm not a kid. You hate babies is what you're saying. Send Chris your baby pictures. I'm not, I don't hate, I love my niece. I love, my niece is great. I, my second niece is on the way and is going to be born probably within the next month. Absolutely love it. Outside of those two, I don't really care. Don't want photos, though. I don't really care. I don't want three different message threads of different baby pictures and saying, oh, my gosh, this baby's so cute.

Oh, my gosh. I don't want. I don't need that. I don't need that in my life. I'm so busy. I'm pulling my hair out trying to find time to get things done. I don't need that in my life. So my point being is group messages get muted. I am the worst person on the planet. You hate babies. I am the worst person on the planet. Look, I just don't have enough time. I can't. Babies don't do it for me, guys.

Look, if somebody was to go and buy a brand new Mustang GT and they were sending pictures about that, I'd love it. I'd be all down for that. Babies? Eh, not my car. I can't. Great impression of a baby. I'm so going to edit this bit out. I hope I can. I'm so going to get canceled. I'm so going to get canceled. So many titles, though, in this segment. You can't edit it. That's true. I can't edit it out. Yeah, I'm writing them down as we speak.

Chris, just keep talking. No, I literally... Look, I recognize I'm the worst person on the planet, but also I just don't have the time. So my point is, crude messages, they all get muted. But I do take things a step further. I always have a focus filter enabled. The one that I always have enabled when I'm not working is called personal. And it lets a lot but not everything through. But then I have, like, I've been using, like, we talked about the reduce interruptions focus.

In fact, I'm using that right now. It's blocking a bunch of stuff that I don't want to deal with while we're recording a podcast. And then I have some really strict focus filters for like when I'm filming or writing that don't let anything through. You cannot get through filming or writing focus unless you hit that button, which I'm so mad Apple doesn't give you the option to take that away from people of the notify anyway. Like, I want to be able to take that away from people because there are people out there and you know who you are that abuse it.

And, yeah, you should be shamed for that. You should be publicly shamed if you abuse that notify anyway button. But the filming and writing focuses, what's really nice about them is I use the focus filter feature. So, like, for the filming focus, I have a calendar set in Fantastical called Everything But Secrets. And I have a calendar called Secrets Calendar where, like, embargoes and product launches and stuff like that that I'm not allowed to publicly talk about go about. So, I don't accidentally leak it when I'm filming my device. So, that's nice. And then for writing, I use the Apple Music Listen History feature.

I turn off the Listen History when I'm in the writing focus because I like listening to a lot of music without lyrics and stuff like that. Not Daft Punk, that's for sure. But good music without lyrics because I need to be able to focus on what I'm doing. But yeah, that's how I handled notifications. That was a lot, I know. I feel like I could turn this into a video. All I heard was Chris is right in the middle of the Venn diagram of people who don't like babies or Daft Punk.

I don't know how many people are in there. Look, it's not that I don't like babies, people. It's not that I don't like babies. I just don't need 50 baby pictures sent to me while I'm trying to work on a big project that's really stressful. I just don't need that. We've got you covered in our group chat. You're just going to send me a bunch of baby pictures today, aren't you? Not going to. It has already happened, sir.

Good job on the focus mode, though. It's working. Yeah, it is. Oh, God. He's opened messages. And cat pictures, too. No, dog pictures. Send dog pictures. My cat counts as a baby. Send dog pictures. Dog pictures. I'm just going to send you my favorite self-portraits. My girlfriend says I'm puppy crazy right now. I really want a puppy right now. She says I keep sending her videos of puppies and stuff.

So I'm puppy crazy. But yeah, any questions on my notifications before we move on? I mean, you said it all. Yep. You said too much. I did say a lot. Sorry. Like I said, I just sat down and I kept writing and writing and writing and writing. The quantity is not the problem. It is the quantity of controversial takes. Unrelated to notifications. Is this the episode that gets me canceled? You survived the first Daft Punk one. So if you can survive that, I think you'll live to fight another day.

Maybe next week you won't be here, though. All right. Well, let's move on to our challenge. And it was my turn to challenge you guys this week. And I wanted you guys to find a new Obsidian plugin to talk about. And my only qualification was that it wasn't a super popular one. It wasn't like advanced tables or the database one that I'm blanking on or something like that.

The one that everyone used, DataView. So, Matt, you're first up in our document here. What do you got for us? Yeah, so I brought two because I was worried one of them wouldn't count because I technically did use it before the challenge was issued. So the first one is called Projects, which basically lets you create a Kanban board in Obsidian. A nice one that's actually nice to use. And the reason I wanted to bring this one is this is the plugin that got me to leave Notion for my YouTube project management.

Because I like to have like a column of ideas in process, need to archive, and then done. And yeah, so this lets you create that with tons of rules. I can't even begin to get into all the settings here. But like, I have a very nice clean interface that I use to kind of manage all my YouTube stuff there. And the one that was new this time is one called Commander. And this basically lets you take anything that you can do in Obsidian's command bar and turn it into a button that goes somewhere in the interface.

So you can put it on the side. You can put it at the top. There's like there's a third place. I forget where you can put you can put buttons everywhere in Obsidian. But basically anywhere a button can go, you can now create a button. So I have added a button for a new video idea. And that instantly creates a new note in the right place with the right template that I can put a video idea. And so that one is really cool. I've also used it in my other Obsidian Vault that I use for syncing my highlights from articles I've read.

I have just a manual sync button that's just in the interface now. So, yeah, it's very nice. And pretty much no matter what you do in Obsidian, there's probably something you can use this for. So that's it. No controversy. i like this no yeah it's nice i've used projects before i i liked it but i don't have uh i i've very recently moved all of my project management for videos and videos and uh expense tracking i moved all of that into air table uh and have a can ban system and all a bunch of stuff set up in there i'm gonna do a video about it later but uh commander i've seen this one and i looked at it and

And I was like, I don't know what I would use it before. But hearing you talk about it and how you're using it, I'm like, yeah, I can think of a couple of different ways. So I just enabled that one from my vault, and I'll play with it after the show. I like this. This is good. All right. So I have two very simple ones. And one of the two I have already used. So it is an honorable mention. That is, I'm going to start with that. That is image captions. And it's really popular, I think. Yeah.

It doesn't count either way. Although, 18,000 downloads, not that much, right? That's pretty small. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not the millions and millions, or like the 2 million that DataView is or something like that. Like, I think mine are around the same amount of downloads. So, honestly, I just wanted to make sure we didn't bring, like, DataView or advanced tables or tasks. Like, that was kind of, like, my big qualification is I didn't want to talk about something that, like, everyone that's used obsidian knows about okay so what image captions does is something because i first bit of context i mostly use obsidian just for my MacStories writing and a bunch of small

work things because for work we mostly use google docs for all of our writing but i mostly use obsidian drafts before that before I get into Google Docs with others so yeah so it's mostly just I open obsidian my obsidian looks extremely boring obsidian setup looks extremely boring I have not found a theme that I like other than a default theme I have not found a color accent in the default theme that I

like more than the default purple color accents I'm really boring when it comes to obsidian all of that to say that image captions allows me to add captions to images in my drafts just just in the way that it works in the max or a CMS so if you look at the the markup in markdown to insert an image in markdown so it's it's a bang and brackets and usually inside the brackets, the square brackets, you insert alternative text. But in Obsidian with this plugin you can add a

caption to the image in there and then it will render the caption below the image in Obsidian and that's exactly how it works in the Max2V CMS as well. So yeah, just to be able to write in the same way in Obsidian that I would, to preview my stuff the same way in Obsidian that I would in WordPress on MacStories.net. But my real pick is CardsView. CardsView, it's even less popular.

So I win even more. And it's made, so let me tell you all the ways that I win. Okay. Okay. it's made by my friend who works with me in the trends so collusion exactly and in the trends organization and she made this small plug-in what it does is it adds a view to obsidian where all your notes inside that vault I guess are displayed in a grid and simple grid it kind of like in a masonry grid right so

they are not all aligned it depends on their height what is nice is that is that you can sort the cards by I think created and yeah modified or created so basic sorting and there's a filter bar so you can just type in and it will dynamically filter the cards in the view and it's really nice I really like this I've been using using it as like my home page of Obsidian just to jump back into a recent story as recent draft that I've been writing in and it's very visual and

I like that because not much in Obsidian is visual apart from the canvas thing but I don't use that. So yeah, it adds something visual to something really boring which is just plain text drafts. And that's it. And other reason to say that I win is that not only is she my friend but also there are only 3,000 downloads and she's great. So yeah, there you go.

Well, I really like this. I just installed it and I'm playing around with it. And this, I like it because it showed me, I think it showed, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's showing all of your documents in the most recent view order. So like, I just created a bunch of like really quick one-off things to paste some text in and do some, like I created like the little template and stuff for posting about the episode we put out yesterday. That was in Obsidian and stuff like that. So like, I just saw those there and I can quickly just delete them and stuff like that and open up.

So I like this a lot. I think this is really cool. Yeah, there's a delete button too, which is really nice. Though I do have some bad news for you. My pick has even less downloads than yours. Oh, no. Mine has 3,099. Yours had 3,200 and something and something. So my pick is a plugin called PaceLink. and it's very simple it's not visual like your guys is it's very very straightforward but what this does is when you paste a link it pastes it in markdown format so it adds the brackets and the

what are the curl what are like the half circle ones called i just my mind's totally blanking parentheses yeah so it adds the brackets and the parentheses and then it moves the insertion point to where you would type what the text would be for the link. You know what I mean for Markdown? Very simple. It's hard to explain Markdown, isn't it? It is. When I just had to describe the image captions, that was really hard. It just happened. Look, if you've ever used Markdown, you know to type a URL in Markdown to get it kind of looking like rich text

where it's just the text you're typing and then you can click on it and get to the link. You go brackets, open parentheses, URL, close parentheses. But in the brackets, that's where you type the name of the URL. So if I was pasting MacStories.net, I'd go into the brackets, and I'd type in MacStories. I absolutely love this. I assigned it to the hotkey Command Option V. So that way, Command V is still just regular paste. So if I'm just pasting a link, I can hit Command V and not even work it out.

But if I want the markdown, I can just command option V, paste it, paste the link, markdown formats it. And the most important bit is it moves the insertion point from where you are typing right back into the bracket so you can type the name if you want. Yeah, so that is killer for me. Yeah, this is one of those plugins that legitimately has been saving me a ton of time doing, like, just putting together, like, links of apps I'm covering and, like, notes and stuff for my iOS and iPadOS 18 walkthrough and stuff like that.

Really like this. I do have another Pace one that I use that Pace, when you go to Pace something, it Pace it in cards. I wasn't planning on talking about it, but I figured since we're here, let me just bring it up really quick. But I have that set up to Command Shift V, and that is called, stalling, stalling, stalling. Oh, AutoCardLink. And that will paste, like, that does some, like, formatting options, and it pastes it as, like, a card.

So it'll pull, like, an image. It'll pull the title and all that stuff. But I haven't been using that one as much. I have a couple honorable mentions, though. And they're honorable mentions because while they're new, I was using them before the challenge. But if I hadn't been using this one before the challenge, this one would have been my pick. And it is Home Tab. So what this does is when you open up a new tab in Obsidian, it replaces that view with just a search bar.

So you open up the tab, and you can just start typing in, and you can search for a document, hit Enter, and it opens that document. But here comes the killer part. if you type a document that is not in your vault so say uh i type um test one two three and i don't have a note called test one two three it creates a new document called test one two three and so it's a great way for not only searching your vault but just creating a new note really quickly because i i live out of tabs and obsidian so um that works really well for me uh i i really like

that and then the last one and i legitimately do not understand how this isn't just built into obsidian by default it's trash explorer uh basically if you go into um there if you delete a note from obsidian there's no way inside obsidian to recover that note so trash explorer basically just gives you an option on that left side um bar the sidebar on the left side to basically see all the notes you recently deleted and you can restore them uh and you can search inside the trash as well to restore them and you can have it set up to like auto delete stuff and things like that but uh really really

handy to have do not understand how that's not part of like the core uh obsidian use but um really really helpful so those are my three uh i'd like to point out that i believe paste link has the least amount of downloads so no if we're going by download numbers i would like i'd like it on the record might have the most downloads which is winning in a different way yeah i don't know you know how do you feel about going by the most downloads i mean looking at it now projects has 300 300 000 and commander has 200 000 so i'm just saying my 3 000 it's just showing it's not as popular

but i will say both of these are fair i i honestly all everyone everyone i think it's I think it is hard to pick. I don't know if we're going to be able to pick a winner this week because I legitimately like every single one of the plugins you all brought. I can see using every single one of them in different ways. So you know what? I would like to say who the winner is. Everyone. We're all winners. And anyone that got something new out of this, found a new plugin for their Obsidian setup, you're a winner too. And if you're not using Obsidian, what's wrong with you?

If you're a baby using Obsidian, Chris has no patience for you. Yeah, exactly. Like, what? A newborn's not using Obsidian? Are they even, like, prepared for college? I'm just kidding. I'm a college dropout. I have no room to talk. But, yeah, anything you guys want to add about Obsidian plugins before we wrap up? I think we have a good selection here. Nice. All right. Well, I think that just about does it for this episode.

I'm going to pull up our... We have one more thing. Chris? Oh! I forgot how our show works. We have one more thing. We have one more thing. It's an internet communication device, a phone, and an iPod. Are you getting it? No, I'm just kidding. I butchered that. All right, Neilian, I believe it's your week for the challenge. Is that right? That's right. And I only realized that today when looking at the document, so that's great.

it's never happened to me never honestly I don't know about you guys but I actually have a note in Obsidian now with just like some challenge ideas and things I want to bring to the show just as things come up so like that's I've been doing that Obsidian the Obsidian plugin one has actually been one of those that was sitting in there for a while that I've been wanting to do because I thought it would be interesting that's one way one more way to know that you and I have very different types of ADHD i would never write this down like no i see i have spontaneously and things come or they don't but

yeah yeah yeah we definitely have two two very different kinds of adhd because if i don't write something down it's forgotten about it's lost it'll never happen yeah but the thing is if i write something down i will forget that i wrote something down so that's just back to square one anyway so Oh, yeah. Anyway, so the challenge. Let me just say that there will be a winner next week. Ooh, okay. We know. No. The challenge is create a new wallpaper.

Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. So let me clarify. So it has to be something that we make. Okay. Okay. I'm personally terrified because I have no idea. But like I said, I come up this morning. So we are going to create a new wallpaper, something that does not exist. We can use whatever we want, like whatever tool we want. And we have to pick one device, okay?

So let's not make a wallpaper that works on every device in every aspect ratio. If you want to make a wallpaper that only works on the Mac, let's do that. Okay? Okay. And that's it, I guess. I guess free reign for the rest. Yes. Okay, I love this. I'm like, okay, when can I go to Yosemite? You guys forgot what's in my backyard. Yeah, yeah.

I live in the Alps, just saying. The suburbs screw me over again. All right. All right. I love it. I love it. Matt is not happy. He's groaning. I don't live in a scenic area at all. But you've made some beautiful wallpapers before. I have, but that feels like a previous life almost. It's been so long. Okay. I'm loving this. Okay. All right. Let's just say I've never done this.

Okay. I've never made a wallpaper. I'm not that advantage here. You're going to find a way to win anyway. What? Only two out of my three wallpaper packs have been technically successful. So, you know, I'm not perfect. So they usually are. Man. Two out of three isn't that great. That's 66%. That's the same amount for Matt. I know you don't know this, but that's the order to kill all the Jedi. So, you know,

it's not great. 66% is also the score of Mini Motorways. Are we a podcast about killing Jedi? It comes out more often than you'd think. It does. We do find a way to fate Star Wars in here. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm excited for this challenge. I'm legitimately excited for this challenge. I have some ideas on what I can do. And yeah, I'm legitimately excited for this one.

Yeah, I think it's going to be nice to talk about the process we will have gone through. Yeah. I'm just hoping I have time to go up to Yosemite. We'll see. Oh, my God. Unbelievable. All right. Well, let's wrap up the show. I have our dating game ready to go here. Let me find a good question. Dating game. Okay, this is going to be a good one. But I'm going to say we have to keep it short and vague. So no long stories.

And I'm mostly saying that to me because I know I ramble. What's an interesting fact about yourself that I'm just going to say that our audience probably doesn't know? Okay. I have driven a NASCAR before. Whoa. Whoa, damn. That's cool. That's cool. That's a fun one. I have shaken a French president's hand, not head.

Fancy. I'm a former competitive swimmer, a winning competitive swimmer. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. All right. Well, that just about does it. Niléane, tell everyone what you're up to this week, where they can find you. As always on macstories.net and on Mastodon at Niléane. Matt, same to you. Where can people find all your stuff? They can find me on YouTube, where I am finally doing things again and have something to say here.

So, yeah, I just posted my review after six months with the Vision Pro. If you want to see extended thoughts on that, a better computer on YouTube. It's a great one. Everyone, punch the like button, roundhouse kick the subscribe button. Yeah, and you can find all my stuff on YouTube as well. I'm Christopher Lawley, L-A-W-L-E-Y. And you can find all my links on my website at theuntitled.site, Macedon, Threads, Instagram, all that stuff. So thank you all so much for listening. And a special thanks to MacStories for having us.

We are a MacStories podcast after all. Thank you, everyone. And have a great day. Bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

Amen.